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117From: <u2philly@a...>
Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 9:08am
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] A million random thoughts ;-)


In a message dated 10/17/2002 6:39:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, Fumbler1013 writes:

> Oh -- hey! There's a tagline for us! The African Well Project: "From the Ground Up." It embodies the very essence of the idea, and everything I talked about above. You like? It's okay to say, "Dot, that sucks!" It won't hurt my
> feelings. <g>

I like the tagline great idea! Doesnt suck Dot. I work for a nonprofit organazation myself and understand about fundraising , nothing new to me. I do have learn from Bono, his strength he has keeps me going and going on. I will tell you a little about myself.

Well im from Philadelphia as most know from my name. Just turned 40 years old a few weeks ago. And have been a u2 fan since 83 going on my 20th year in 2003!! U2 have always been a inspiration to me. Its not only the music, lyrics but the concern the band has for the world. Yes Bono has open my eyes to the worlds problems. Im so glad he has. For now I know im doing it from my heart not just because bono is doing it. I think I said this before. Sorry if im repeating myself. Anyway I will help out in anyway I can. Well back to work I go..before i get in trouble being on aol.

karla



121From: u2sangel2001 <u2sangel2001@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 0:58pm
Subject: Lifewater site


I checked out that site and they are US based what I read sounded
great.We would have to contact them about this and see if they are
interested in our proceeds.What do you all think?
128From: t d <discoteque_boom_cha@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 3:22pm
Subject: [u2sangel2001] a little about me


Hey there!

My name is Ann. i'm 22 years old and a junior in
college. i'm originally from wyoming but now i'm
going to school in washington. i've been a U2 fan for
quite a bit. i drove 8 hrs. twice to see them on tour
last year. i have been inspired by Bono and the boys
to be more active in the world and to not only be
compassionate for other people but to actually help
them. i wrote a letter to Oprah about that exact
thing and she flew me out for the show that Bono was
just on. i was supposed to read my letter on air but
the show ran long. i was the one on the after show
that got to put on Bono's shades. (they cut out a lot
of that for tv too). anyway, that day made me even
more motivated to help. it made Bono a real person to
me not just a rock star. i could feel his compassion
and anger for the situation in Africa. so... you guys
let me know what to do and i'll do it! i'm all about
it.

peace, love, SOUL
ann
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132From: nakedemus <nakedemus@h...>
Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 6:03pm
Subject: Logo?


Do we want to have a logo for this project? If so, I had an idea for
one. I uploaded it to files/logo ideas. Let me know what you think!
139From: <Fumbler1013@a...>
Date: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:36pm
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Logo?


That's a good start, nakedemus, but generally logos have the name of the company/organization in them. Perhaps we could work that in somehow?

It's also noteworthy that that's not the kind of well we're talking about, lol. But who *really* cares?

Dot.
142From: Angela Parker <nakedemus@h...>
Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 9:58am
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Logo?


Lol. Yeah, I realize that the well isn't acurate, but I figured it would be much cuter than a picture of a pump!

Speaking of the organization name, did we decide on one yet?


Angela






>From: Fumbler1013@aol.com
>Reply-To: u2sangel2001@yahoogroups.com
>To: u2sangel2001@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Logo?
>Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:36:03 EDT
>
>That's a good start, nakedemus, but generally logos have the name of the
>company/organization in them. Perhaps we could work that in somehow?
>
>It's also noteworthy that that's not the kind of well we're talking about,
>lol. But who *really* cares?
>
>Dot.


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Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:37pm
Subject: Offical name


I don;t know about anyone else but African Well Fund says it all to
me!How bout ya'll?
180From: u2sangel2001 <u2sangel2001@y...>
Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 6:13am
Subject: Idea for who to donate the proceeds of this fund to


Hey guys I checked out the Watercan site again and in the links
section there is an organazation called Ryans Well Foundation started
by a teenage boy!It looked great to me!If you get a chance to check
it out please do and let me know what you think !
191From: Lakecha Lewis <electrical_storm@u...>
Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 10:30pm
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Reply to recent messages


I thought about your introduction and I really liked it. I thought of another way to write it to make it sound a little better, and maybe you will agree. Here it goes:

"For most of us, clean water is as easy as turning on a faucet. For millions of people in Sub-Saharan Africa, it’s a long way to the nearest source of clean water, sometimes as long as ten miles. Terrible diseases like cholera, which can grow into killer epidemics, can result from drinking nearby contaminated water. Imagine your lifeline being a ten mile walk away. We started this fund because we don’t think anyone should have to walk ten miles to get water just to scrub a wound clean or to hydrate against the day’s heat. Human bodies require water intake to survive. These people need wells!

Wells are not expensive. It only costs about $1,000 USD to build a well in Africa. This can provide clean water for up to 500 people a day. Every time we raise $1,000 USD that’s another well. We are ordinary people from all walks of life. We came together specifically to raise money for wells in Africa, in part because they are a village’s lifeline and in part because providing wells is a perfectly achievable goal for us."

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What do you think?
electrical_storm (formerly llewis94)


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OK, I've just updated the "statement mini-site" at the same URL. with your numbers! I'm going to be using the word "unsanitary" rather than "dirty" in future drafts. Keep the comments coming, we want to be proud of our site! In case you don't have the URL to the "statement mini-site" it's http://scholar76.tripod.com/african2.htm/


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259From: dianey40 <dyoder@n...>
Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:29am
Subject: Oprah


I'm not sure if Oprah is a viable option if you want to focus
specifically on well building. Oprah funds different charities
through her Angel Network. If you go to her website the specifics are
there. For example, she is working with Free the Children to build
schools worldwide. The Angel Network also gives out college
scholarships. She also has "Use Your Life Awards" that distributes a
lump sum of money to nominated people, usually obscure grassroots
efforts.

Of course, after her visit to Africa, she may incorporate new
programs there into the Angel Network or start a separate fund
raising project specifically for Africa.

Diane
265From: dianey40 <dyoder@n...>
Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:49pm
Subject: another link about wells


I came across this link today while looking for something else


http://www.africare.org/at_work/index.html

Just click on A new well


Diane
278From: bonoist <bonoist@y...>
Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:08pm
Subject: Contributions/Chat/Where to send our money


Hi!

Definitely count me in for a donation to the site. Can't do it until
payday, but I'm in.

As for the chat, I cannot/will not use MSN and AOL messenger chats.
Both of them have had worms/viruses transferred via them, so it is
either through Yahoo site or Yahoo messenger for me.

Best times for me are Sunday evenings, but I will try to make
whatever time ya'll choose.

I think we should do a bit more research before we decide which
organization gets our money. I haven't had an opportunity to check
out the ones mentioned, but I will very shortly. (Damn 14 hour
workdays take away all my time lately!)

Elizabeth
287From: groovcat <larawineman@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:01pm
Subject: Web Site Go Live!


Hello Everyone!
You can now access our website via its URL:
www.africanwellfund.org
In the upcoming days (hopefully by Saturday) I will have put a
PayPal link up for donations and by mid next week a Post Office
Address that you and others can send checks/cash/money
orders to.
In the meantime I have paid out of pocket for the website start
which was $120USD. If you'd like to reimburse me a little of this
money I would totally appreciate it! I'm, of course, not asking for
all of it back, just some. I have a PayPal account under the name
larawineman@h.... Otherwise if you can't pay online
please email me directly (same address as PayPal account) to
get my home address for I don't wanna put it out here for
everyone to see!
Sooooo - any suggestions on the website are welcome. In the
upcoming days I will add a links page and hopefully we can
decide on where we will donate and I can put that info up as well.
I also would like input on the banner I threw up there - we should
get a logo/banner together and whats up there now I took from
the DVD so it may be copyright infringement to use. Anyone think
a design contest is in order?
Thanks y'all!
lara
306From: <Fumbler1013@a...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:26am
Subject: Africare!!


guys -- I have about 2 seconds to write this because I have to leave like,
now, to go photograph an event...but I just got off the phone with someone
from the Africare office in D.C. And they can set up a GREAT situation for
us...I REALLY think we should go with them. Details later. And get this --
Bono is there, right now! The lady I was talking to said that he was "just
downstairs right now."

Details later today/tonight...

Dot.
307From: oktobergirl <oktobergirl@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:00pm
Subject: Re: Africare!!


I was just on their website. They do seem to have it together. Oooh
it says there is a big fundraiser/ dinner with Harry Belafonte
tonight in DC at the Hilton.

Wonder who's prolly going??

Anyway, I can't wait to hear what you found out. Would they be able
to set up a fund specific to wells and have a way to get them built?
That would be SOOOOO awesome.

I'm anxious to hear the information you gather.


.--- In u2sangel2001@y..., Fumbler1013@a... wrote:
> guys -- I have about 2 seconds to write this because I have to
leave like,
> now, to go photograph an event...but I just got off the phone with
someone
> from the Africare office in D.C. And they can set up a GREAT
situation for
> us...I REALLY think we should go with them. Details later. And
get this --
> Bono is there, right now! The lady I was talking to said that he
was "just
> downstairs right now."
>
> Details later today/tonight...
>
> Dot.
308From: u2sangel2001 <u2sangel2001@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:16pm
Subject: Africacare!!


If Africcare has a great deal for us then great!I want all the
specific details as soon as they are available!!!!Please!
316From: groovcat <larawineman@h...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:19pm
Subject: Africare


From: http://www.africare.org/at_work/index.html

Africare has helped develop permanent water sources
throughout Africa since the organization's founding in 1971.
* In 1994, Africare mobilized the village of Konga, in Mali, to build
three dams. This six-month effort brought 250 new acres of rice
fields under cultivation. Africare workers taught more than 500
villagers how to cultivate the rice, maintain the new dams and
manage the new floodplain, which they continue to do today.
* In 1992, Africare launched the largest emergency water
program ever conducted in Southern Africa -- combating what
became the worst drought in the region's recorded history.
Africare field workers and African villagers built wells, pumps
and other water distribution systems in 600 villages of Malawi,
Zambia and Zimbabwe, bringing water to more than 500,000
people.

Plus much much more - check it out
327From: Julie <oktobergirl@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:10am
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Africare




I think we need to see what the response is from Africare before we decide to go with them. I would think we need to actually talk to them abotu this before we advertise this is where the money is going to. I think it is a great organization but we need to ensure the money we send goes directly to well building/water purification first.

Since the site is called African Well Fund, I think we need to stick with the original idea and make sure the money is funnelled directly for that purpose. NOt

Just an idea!



u2philly2001 wrote:
I just came from the Africare site. I really believe this is a strong

site to donate money to. Maybe we should go with them??? Plus today
reading youtwo.net and Bono attending a dinner for Harry Belofonte.
And I think not sure that was sponsored by Africare. I know some
major people were there from Africare. What does anyone think?

peace.
karla



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Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 0:01pm
Subject: Need a Summary of the Choices for Newbies


I'm a newbie to the list and need to know a summary of the choices.
I've been trying to wade through all the emails to find the
information but would really appreciate a summary of the groups you
are asking us to vote on. It would be nice if there was a list with a
few words and then a link to each website so we can make an informed
choice.

From the little bit of research on this that I have done on my own
today, I can see that there are hundreds of organizations all over the
world that do well projects, but I'd like to find one that does only
wells and is small enough that our contribution would make a
difference.

Thanks,
Bonnie Quigg
331From: Julie <oktobergirl@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 0:15pm
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Need a Summary of the Choices for Newbies




Hi Bonnie,

I understand your question and your feelings. We have not made a decision yet on what organization the money will go to. There are links on the left side of the page on the Yahoo Group site, and you can click on the link for africare there, as well as Ryan's Well Foundation. The other option is Oprah's network, but I don't think we've had much response there. If you can find any other organizations on your own that you think would be benefitted please list them here! I know that the Africare organization gives you the option to choose a Village Well Fund when you go to Donate- I don't know what the amt of donations are like for them but at least we know where the money is going directly.

I have an email inquiry in to them to find out some deatils about the Water donations there and as soon as I get a response, I will let you all know.



THanks! bonniequigg wrote:
I'm a newbie to the list and need to know a summary of the choices.

I've been trying to wade through all the emails to find the
information but would really appreciate a summary of the groups you
are asking us to vote on. It would be nice if there was a list with a
few words and then a link to each website so we can make an informed
choice.

From the little bit of research on this that I have done on my own
today, I can see that there are hundreds of organizations all over the
world that do well projects, but I'd like to find one that does only
wells and is small enough that our contribution would make a
difference.

Thanks,
Bonnie Quigg



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Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 0:47pm
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Need a Summary of the Choices for Newbies


Hi Bonnie! I too personally prefer Wellcan. They do strictly wells, they have a nice "up-close-and-personal" organization, yet they really get the job done, too. The other groups are great but I prefer this one. Wells are so important. They're a "springboard" to other things. Once a village has clean water they can do zillions of other things. The story of "Ryan's well" in that Ugandan village shows exactly how they make a difference.
I hope I'm not being too pushy, I just really like this group! I happen to think potential donors will, too!



Patricia




I'm a newbie to the list and need to know a summary of the choices.
I've been trying to wade through all the emails to find the
information but would really appreciate a summary of the groups you
are asking us to vote on. It would be nice if there was a list with a
few words and then a link to each website so we can make an informed
choice.

From the little bit of research on this that I have done on my own
today, I can see that there are hundreds of organizations all over the
world that do well projects, but I'd like to find one that does only
wells and is small enough that our contribution would make a
difference.

Thanks,
Bonnie Quigg



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333From: bonniequigg <bonnieq@i...>

Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:24pm
Subject: WaterCan site crashes my Unix Netscape


I would really like to see the WaterCan site, but when it comes up, it
freezes my Netscape and I can't click on anything. I have to kill it
to get control back. So that isn't going to help me know much about
them. I'm in Unix hell here...I'm sure it doesn't crash anyone's
Windows environment.

So anyway. It sounds like WaterCan is a good organization from the
endorsement I've seen here. I'd prefer to give to a smaller
organization. I'm sure Africare is great too.

I'd like to know from each organization we are considering what
percentage of the donation actually goes to the well project and what
percentage goes to administrative costs. Even Ryan's Well project has
administrative costs that they deduct from their donations.

Its important to me to find out how much that percentage is. A
reasonable amount is 75% or more going to the actual project. Many
large organizations contribute far less to their projects because
their donations are eaten into by high administrative
costs...including give-aways, salaries, promotional literature, fact
finding trips, etc. Sometimes they say 100% goes to the project
because they have whole groups designated as "the project" and they
are in essence hiding their administrative costs that way...the
important number is how much actually goes to the people constructing
the well.

I get solicitations for contributions from so many different
organizations it isn't even funny. Whenever I get a big glossy package
from some charity asking for funds, I get suspicious that much of the
proceeds are going to overhead. If they sponsor raffles, hold big
dinners for VIPs, and give away freebies (Christmas cards and address
labels), I get turned off and very wary. So this is a concern to me.
Africare is a big organization...big overhead...lots of paid
salaries...etc.; makes me worry.

So I hope that someone can provide that information to us before we
are asked to make the final decision on which organization to send our
contributions to.

This is a great and worthy cause for all of us to be involved in. I'm
happy to be a part of it. Thanks to all of you who are actively
working on this.

Bonnie Quigg
335From: <Fumbler1013@a...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:44am
Subject: Details on Africare


Hey! :-) I am so sorry it's taken me so long to sit my butt down here and fill y'all in on the details, lol. We had SUCH a busy day in my household yesterday. In case it makes you feel any better, I stood up my piano teacher yesterday, too.

Ok so yesterday morning I called the Africare offices in D.C. I spoke to Patricia Owens, who works in development, for about....I'd say about 5-7 minutes. She was very nice and very helpful! I explained to her what we were all doing, here, and said that we were having trouble finding an organization to donate to...and while I knew that well building was only ONE of many things that Africare does, I told her, I was wondering if somehow we could work out a situation where we could donate to that specific cause, through Africare. And she said that we sure can! They already have procedures in place for people to do just that.

...and so I pushed further and asked if maybe we would be able to adopt a specific village and be able to get updates from them every so often, so that we could see how the well has helped the community's progress. And she said Yep! They do that too! She said that they have representatives in each country that go out to collect updates, and even try to get pictures, and they send them to us either every 6 months or quarterly, depending on the amount that we donate. (Not sure of the specifics of that...I am guessing it'll be quarterly, since we're funding the entire well ourselves.)

So I was like...that's just awesome!! And I went one step further and asked if she thought maybe it were possible for us to get letters from the villagers themselves -- because the more personal contact, the better, I emphasized. If we have things like letters and pictures, it's like having our own proof in our hands that hey, this stuff works. And how much of a difference that people like us CAN make. She said that is possible, but obviously depends on the village and it's situation...obviously. But they could try.

Anyway -- Yaayyyy! How cool is that, you guys?!?

OK so they have two different programs, essentially. One in Ethiopia and one in Uganda. They are slightly different, so she is mailing me a pamphlet on both as well as Africare's annual report (for my reading enjoyment, lol). I'll give you the lowdown on those when they arrive.

Patricia will remain our contact (when dealing with organizations and businesses on a regular basis like this, I like to try and stick with the same point person wherever possible) from here on out, but we don't really deal with them again until we have the $1,000 raised. (And, of note, I did make a point to confirm with her that it is precisely $1,000 that needs to be raised per well. It is! :-) lol.) When we have our $1,000, we will send it off to her, indicating on the memo line of the check which program (Uganda or Ethiopia) we intend it to go to. So really, we have a while before we even need to decide on that, which is nice.

Next, someone in that country will contact us, and together we will choose a village. And that's when we'll get to start to, as our favorite Secretary of Treasury would say, "see some results." ;-)

So how do you guys feel about this? Having looked at their website, and talked with a representative from Africare, I feel very strongly that this is THE one. I had a great feeling about Africare from the getgo.

...And then, of course -- If the fact that Bono was "right downstairs" at the very moment I called isn't an omen, I don't bloody know what is! And I had debated whether or not to call right before I had to leave for the event or wait until today! Needless to say, I am glad I didn't wait, no matter how late it made me for the event, lol. (Actually, we were too early and ended up having to wait around, lol.)

In case nothing I said about his being there made any sense....Yeah, he was! I stopped at some point while I was explaining to Patricia how we had gotten this idea, and said something like, "You see, we're all U2 fans, and I'm sure you're familiar with what their lead singer, Bono, has done in Africa..." and she said, essentially, "oh yes, we are! He's here today!" I was like, ::gasp!:: Yoooou're kiiiding! lol. She's all, yeah, "Mr. Bono" (lol) comes in here all the time! And she also said Chris Tucker comes in a lot as well!

He was down there talking to the president of Africare, I guess, and giving a talk about what he's (Bono, I mean) doing to help fight AIDS and other diseases in Africa. Patricia sees him all the time, but she said she just happens to be incredibly busy every time he comes in! I was like, awww. I told her that he's a very approachable, sweet person, in case she ever does want to stop and say hi to him. She agreed and said he seems like a very nice guy, and very sociable. I, of course, couldn't help but be a dork and ask if she could somehow get word down to him that we were doing this, and she laughed and said she'd try, but of course she didn't sound very convinced that she'd be able to get through the "huge entorage that he always has around him." lol.

So there's the lowdown on that. Dunno if he's still in the States or what...but I imagine he'll be heading back to Dublin one of these days for his buddy Larry's b-day. ;-)

Cheers,
Dot.
338From: u2sangel2001 <u2sangel2001@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:59pm
Subject: Africare


Glad to hear from you Dot finally!We were on pins and needles here!
This sounds like a great deal!My only concern is: it will take a
while to raise the money($1000)do we know that Africare will remember
us?Also is there any additional cost involved with adopting a village?
And my last question can we put "all proceeds will be donated to
Africare"on our site now ?When you receive the booklets please let us
know all pertinent details!It looks like this is the organazation we
are going with, I just want to know it will be a done deal from their
end!
343From: Angela Parker <nakedemus@h...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:27pm
Subject: Re: [u2sangel2001] Africare


I also think that Africare sounds like a great organisation to go through! I particlarlly like the idea of adopting our own village and recieving progress reports. You get a better sense of the difference being made and how what we are doing really could improve poeples lives!

I don't think that it would take too long to raise $1000. It's not that much really. If everyone in this group alone gave $20 each, we'd already have over $960! Plus it gives us a goal to work for.


Angela




>From: "u2sangel2001"
>Reply-To: u2sangel2001@yahoogroups.com
>To: u2sangel2001@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [u2sangel2001] Africare
>Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:59:25 -0000
>
>Glad to hear from you Dot finally!We were on pins and needles here!
>This sounds like a great deal!My only concern is: it will take a
>while to raise the money($1000)do we know that Africare will remember
>us?Also is there any additional cost involved with adopting a village?
>And my last question can we put "all proceeds will be donated to
>Africare"on our site now ?When you receive the booklets please let us
>know all pertinent details!It looks like this is the organazation we
>are going with, I just want to know it will be a done deal from their
>end!
>



Definitely...and then think of all the people we know.
I'm sure some of them will donate too, so getting to
$1,000 shouldn't be take as long as it seems. I am
out of school, but maybe some people still in school
could set up a table or something to get some
donations. I don't know if that will work, but....and
I have another idea...what about trick or treating for
money. I know people who used to do that for
charities. They'd carry around a large plastic
container with some sort of flyer or something on it
letting people know what it was for and then explain.
It may be a good way to raise some money.


--- u2sangel2001 <u2sangel2001@y...> wrote:
> I agree if everyone in the group gave a few dollars
> it would not take
> long to get to $1000 I hope we can rely on outside
> donations too.My
> concern is can we put all donations go to Africare
> on the site before
> turning the money over to them?I think Dot is the
> best person to
> contact the person at Africare since she has already
> spoken to her.I
> hope we can get that answered.
>
>


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348From: bonniequigg <bonnieq@i...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:20pm
Subject: Re: Getting to a thousand


--- In u2sangel2001@y..., "u2sangel2001" <u2sangel2001@y...> wrote:
> I agree if everyone in the group gave a few dollars it would not
take
> long to get to $1000 I hope we can rely on outside donations too.My
> concern is can we put all donations go to Africare on the site
before
> turning the money over to them?I think Dot is the best person to
> contact the person at Africare since she has already spoken to her.I
> hope we can get that answered.

I think we can legitimately post to the various U2 lists we belong to
about our project once we have the details in place, so getting to a
thousand shouldn't be too hard. I was surprised to hear its only
$1000...I thought $2000 was the going price for a well in Africa...?
Maybe for $1000 they let you participate in a specific village...but
maybe we'd have to share it with another donor? whatever...we'll cross
that bridge when we come to it.

My company does matching grants for charitable contributions and I
know that Africare is one of the qualifying institutions...so I'm
going to look into that right now.

This is getting exciting...!!

Bonnie
352From: pkhk4u2 <pkhk4u2@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 4:22pm
Subject: Re: Response to recent posts


I have been reading through all the posts (so many of them!) and I
think Africare sounds great. I love the idea of being able to adopt
a villiage. As far as which country to go with, could we do both.
The first $1000 goes to Uganda and the next to Ethiopia or vise
versa?

When we decide which group we are going to donate to, I think we
should put it on the website even if we aren't ready to accept
donations yet. That way those who visit the site will know where
it's going once we're ready.

As for raising the money how about a fundraiser? I'm a consultant
with 2 direct sales companies (Tupperware and Gabby Goodies) and
they both have fundraising programs. I don't know if we can do it
with Tupperware though because they won't ship the orders to the
individual customers, but rather to who ever is in charge of the
fundraiser. Since we are all over the country, the shipping will be
too expensive to do that. Instead I could donate all my profit from
sales made on my website between certain dates or something like
that. The fundraiser with Gabby Goodies would give us %10 of the
sales we get. It's not a lot, but every bit helps. I would then also
donate my profit from those sales also. Just a thought.

Here is my website if any of you want to check out what we have (I
know most of you probably haven't heard of Gabby Goodies!) then let
me know if you think a fundraiser with either or both of them would
be something you all would be interested in. Again, I would donate
ALL my profits from the sales made with those.

www.my.tupperware.com/heidikilgallon
http://gabbygoodies.tripod.com

I think that's all for now! I'm excited to get this going!

Heidi
355From: <Fumbler1013@a...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:39pm
Subject: Answers to your questions re: Africare


<FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><< My only concern is: it will take a while to raise the money($1000)do we know that Africare will remember us? >>

I guess it depends on how good of a memory she has! lol! My guess is that Patricia will remember us. But it's not all THAT important that she does, really. The program is already in place; it's not an arrangement that is being designed specifically for us. I am sure we'll be fine. :-)

Moreover, I think you'll be suprised -- I don't think it'll take that long at all.

<>

I don't believe so. I specifically asked her, "So, what we need to raise is precisely $1,000, right?" And since her answer was yes, I think we are to assume that all other costs are contained therein. Otherwise I think she would have mentioned so in her answer to that question. If there is anything, I'm sure it'll say so in the information that she mails to me.

<>

I think that's up to the group!

<>

I don't think so. The term "sponsored by," I think, implies that they are providing funding for us to do our project -- which they aren't. WE'RE giving THEM money. So really, it's us who are sponsoring them. lol.

<From: u2sangel2001 <u2sangel2001@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:28pm
Subject: Replies to recent posts


Thank you to Dot for answering my questions.As long as we can put all
donations go to Africare than we are fine!I just wanted to make sure
it was ok with them to do so!Bonnie if you can get a matching grant
that would be wonderful!I am assuming if we hit $1000 for a well in
one village we move on to another?(maybe I am wrong tho).I am telling
all the friends and family that I can about the fund I am really
hoping we can reach $1000 in a few months time!There are 48 of us
here at the group if each of us gave only 3-4 dollars a week plus
outside donations we could have it much sooner which is the plan
here.I want this to be an ongoing fund to go on indefinately!Patricia
if you are having problems with the email account talk to Lara or I
can forward some of the emails to you that I receive if you prefer.I
hope you all will be at chat Sunday so we can discuss all the good
stuff.I never dreamed we would have an organazation like Africare
interested in us!!One last thing about collecting for trick or
treating may not be a great idea since most people do not know who we
are and a few years ago I remember reading a newspaper story about
people collecting for Unicef at halloween and pocketing the money(not
that anyone here would do that)About fundraising I have no problem
with it it is a group decision however and if the group wants to go
for it then fine.Ann I am sorry that Oprah turned us down she may
regret that later tho!(honestly I thought it was a long shot
anyway).All of you be here at chat Sunday this is getting good ya'll!
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